Friday, October 30, 2009

Prod.2001- Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs (IX)

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Seq. 5-B "Snow White Tells Dwarfs to Wash"
- Snow White by Ham Luske, Grim Natwick and Jack Campbell, dwarfs by Frank Thomas, Fred Spencer and Bill Tytla.

This sequence features a good amount of Frank Thomas' dwarfs, easing into Bill Tytla's, ready for the next sequence. Is the line "Don't forget behind the ears and under the beards" still in there? I do not remember it - and as I said, here I do not have the film at hand...

I have a point of order: though some sequences in this draft may not be FINAL, this actual draft was used in the "Morgue" which later merged into the ARL. I do have another copy, from the BG Morgue, and it is EXACTLY the same set of pages, but without the hand-written scribbles. I scanned the ones which were easiest to scan.

It seems that, though these pages may not be FINAL, they sort of were anyway. There may not be "real" FINAL pages for some sequences, seeing how much the studio scrambled to finish the film. They would not have produced FINAL pages "after the fact," after the film was finished. I again refer to my "standard disclaimer" that these were not historical documents but road maps to the responsible person while the film was in production. Thus, it is very possible (I am not saying it is true) that Fred Moore roughly posed out the dwarfs in this sequence and that Frank then used these to animate the scenes. We can not know this from this draft. It does not tell us who the directing animator was on this sequence. For that, we need to see the documents regarding these scenes including story meetings and casting sheets (if any), and the scenes themselves. Without these we are left with just the info in these drafts, which most often is precise in its crediting the person who did the actual drawings, but at times only shows who was left holding the ball when the sequence was finished in animation. This is something we need to keep in mind when we study these documents.

We are missing other info, like directors and layout info. Again, we need to make do with what we have unless we can get access to info that tells us otherwise. I do remember that in this period, the studio still did not really know what a sequence director's area was - for in the end the supervising director for the film would be Dave Hand, though we know that he did not direct single sequences. Maybe this explains the absence of the names in the director area. On the next film (Pinocchio) they figured this out - it is the most elaborate draft. (Though only the Fun and Fancy Free draft at times indicates directing animators.)

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4 Comments:

Anonymous John V. says...

A broken link on the first page - should link to "...045.jpg" rather than "...0452.jpg".

Might have known it was Grim animating Snow White using her feminine wiles to get the dwarfs to wash!

Friday, October 30, 2009 at 6:00:00 PM PDT  
Anonymous Michael J. Ruocco says...

I can't access the first page, I think the link was broken. Could you re-upload it?

Also, the "wash behind the beards" line is not in the final film. I'm glad that it isn't in there, it would've been too much of a distraction for when Dopey walks the wrong way behind the door (unless that gag was thought up after this draft was written?).

Friday, October 30, 2009 at 6:59:00 PM PDT  
Anonymous Hans Perk says...

Oopsie - fixed the link!

Friday, October 30, 2009 at 9:35:00 PM PDT  
Anonymous Steven Hartley says...

You probably know that, Frank Thomas' original idea for the film was for Dopey to have "hitch steps", to catch up with the others, (look at Dopey's walk on the "Heigh Ho" song, and for this sequence, look at the scene where the dwarves march to the tub), you'll see Dopey taking hitch-steps.

Here's what the Internet Movie Database said about the film..."For the scene where the dwarves are sent off to wash, animator Frank Thomas had Dopey do a hitch step to catch up to the others, as suggested in the storyboard. Walt Disney liked it so much he had the step added to other scenes - much to the chagrin of the other animators, who blamed Thomas for the extra work they had to do. "

Sunday, May 30, 2010 at 1:41:00 AM PDT  

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