Prod.2001-Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs(XVI)
posted by Hans Perk at 10:00 AM
Friday, November 6, 2009
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6 Comments:
This sequence starts at 2 in the film so all the scene 1 parts are cut out. I remember reading that this sequence had its first parts cut out and this draft proves it. The draft's date is before the release, so I wonder if they appeared in the official release, maybe not. Disney may have thought the movie had enough horror scenes and decide to remove this.
I'm impressed that Ferguson had to do the whole sequence by himself but when the witch speaks to the camera, it feels over the top. It makes her look insane. Of course, that was probably the point.
An interesting fact, that in foreign versions, the book's writing is changed to the appropriate language (the same is true with the Dwarf's beds).
Fergy does a fine job...I quite like the witch.
The fact that the wicked queen has so little character in contrast to the witch really bugs me, though....They don't seem like the dame person!
I remember reading somewhere (maybe the sadly vanished Disney Ever Notice site) that one deleted scene involved the Queen having the Huntsman "dragged away by Nubian torturers", presumably as punishment for disobeying her orders. What I'd be interested to know is 1) in what way were they "Nubian", 2) in what way were they identifiable as "torturers" rather than executioners or mere thugs, and 3) if they *were* clearly identifiable as torturers, did they ever seriously consider including the scene? Given that they kept in the skeleton of the prisoner grasping for the water jug, I do wonder just how disturbing they were and were not prepared to go.
Luckily, John the archives were able to save that site you mentioned
here and it does mentioned what you said.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020811102245/www.evernotice.com/snowwhite.html
Now for what it means by "Nubian" here's a guess. In a lot cartoons and probably movies made at the time that took place in Egypt and Arabia, the common thing was to make the palace guards black (see Mickey in Arabia). Nubian might have a name selected to describe those guards. Nubia is where modern day Ethiopia is and had a lot of contact with Egypt. I'm pretty sure the use of black guards where also used to suggest the slave trading aspects of the Middle East society (there only seen as guards, meaning they're probably not from around).
All that said, I highly doubt the scene you mentioned was even planned. Sure, a book is sighted but looking at what is mentioned as well (seriously, Snow White's mother dying in childbirth, that would never go through the Hays department, why consider it) I think it is unlikely that Walt and his storymen even considered it (Walt had earlier ruled out the possibility of the wolf eating the pigs in the Three Little Pigs, see Hollywood Cartoon). Plus having Nubians in European fairy tale setting would be very odd.
Though the link was correct in Paul's comment, it does not show within the pre-defined column widths. It brings you here.
Thanks, Paul and Hans, I had been trying for a long time to reah the EverNotice site with web.archive, but I just got told that "robots" were preventing me from reaching it. You'll also notice the post, by "PolarBear", which says that Sleepy was a late replacement for a different character. For what it's worth, I was "The Sorceror's [sic] Padawan".
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